Posts by Slidin Fast

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The resurrection fantasy, the last desperate illusion?

by Slidin Fast in

as people get older they inevitably lose more of their friends and family.

the doctrine that binds them to the truth like superglue is the doctrine of the resurrection.

they ache to see their dead rise.. so ... i die.

Slidin Fast

Thanks for all your contributions. I am afraid I slept through most of them. Being in Europe I am out of synch with most contributors.

I find the difference between a clone and a copy interesting, I think that if you are a believer it carries little significance. Basically you have a basic cosy idea and you sprinkle fairy dust over it so that the glitches and anomalies are healed up and give the golden glow at funerals.

The problem for me though is similar to the conception nightmare. There was a race between countless spermatozoa to fuse with the ovum that became me. What if another one had won? There would have been someone else walking the Earth in my place, born in the same town to the same parents with the same siblings but it would not be me. In the WT resurrection, there will be someone walking in my shoes, in my image, saying my (apostate) words but he will not be me. I will be dead.

Here are another couple of spanners in the works, the ones that set me thinking.

Jesus’ resurrection:

1. He was materialised in an unrecognisable body, why? He was perfect as a man, why change his appearance?

2. He was materialised with the wounds of the nails in his hands, why? Does this mean that people will be resurrected with bits missing? The WT teaches that we will be resurrected with our missing bits restored; the illnesses that finished us off will be cured. Wait a minute though that can’t be right we would be perfect, whoa, no, no, no. OK all repaired but not perfect that’s right. Check it out, Insight, Resurrection.

It all gets like a fairy story, Snow White and the seven dwarves. Believe it if you want, I don’t buy it.

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The resurrection fantasy, the last desperate illusion?

by Slidin Fast in

as people get older they inevitably lose more of their friends and family.

the doctrine that binds them to the truth like superglue is the doctrine of the resurrection.

they ache to see their dead rise.. so ... i die.

Slidin Fast

WooHoo Sulla, I didn't realise I was as deep as that, John Locke indeed.

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The resurrection fantasy, the last desperate illusion?

by Slidin Fast in

as people get older they inevitably lose more of their friends and family.

the doctrine that binds them to the truth like superglue is the doctrine of the resurrection.

they ache to see their dead rise.. so ... i die.

Slidin Fast

As people get older they inevitably lose more of their friends and family. The doctrine that binds them to the “truth’ like superglue is the doctrine of the resurrection. They ache to see their dead rise.

So … I die. There is no doubt that death is final, there is no soul, and nothing lives on, I am ......dead. The resurrection creates a clone that is like me, it is a bit like me, it has the same memories and mental processes. It is however not and never will be ……ME. I am …..dead, I will always be …..dead.

The clone that replaces me may not even look like me according to the WT. The image of people running from opened graves into the arms of their loved ones is a fallacy. They would not even be recognised. The disciples walked straight past Jesus. The resurrected and Armageddon survivors will be a strange mixture of “real” people and clones. Imagine “West World” on a colossal scale.

When I die (and I will), I will be either gone forever or as a resurrected one nothing more than an animated blow up doll pretending to be me. I want no part of it.

Am I being too cynical? Have I got it all wrong? Is the whole premise of living forever as a resurrected person just a masturbatory fantasy? It is just as much an illusory carrot as the generation.

You couldn’t make it up.

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Memorial Time March 26 After Sundown Same Date As Deadline For Appeal Child Molestation Case Agianst Watchtower Corporation (Synchonicity)

by frankiespeakin in

well we can only speculate but i see something auspicious, and synchronistic about the whole thing.. http://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/scheduledactions.cfm?dist=1&doc_id=2025979&doc_no=a136641.

future scheduled actions.

jane doe v. the watchtower bible and tract society of new york inc. et al.. division 3case number a136641.

Slidin Fast

Soooo! Whats the latest?

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The perplexing conundrum 607 b.c.e condensed down to ONE SIMPLE FACT

by Brother of the Hawk in

i was encouraged to post this thought, so here it is.. i recently finished reading "the gentile times reconsidered" by bro.

carl olof jonsson, ( third edition).

phew!!

Slidin Fast

In short, there is no simple smoking gun way of explaining it to a dub. They will not be able to see the shine of gold, they hav spent too long trying to polish turds to look like gold.

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Make Your Contribution Really Count.

by Slidin Fast in

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if you don't live in the uk you won't understand what is going on.

it seems the whole country is pouring money into "comic relief".

currently 66m has been donated tonight and that is likely be doubled when the dust settles.. the refreshing thing is that every penny goes to make a difference.

Slidin Fast

If you don't live in the UK you won't understand what is going on. It seems the whole country is pouring money into "comic relief". Currently £66M has been donated tonight and that is likely be doubled when the dust settles.

The refreshing thing is that every penny goes to make a difference. They don't salt it into investments, a huge built estate or try to paper the world. They offer mosquito nets to prevent malaria, they offer injections to protect children from tropical diseases. They save lives, they improve lives, they show love in action. It works.

You greedy bastards in Brookyn - look and hang your heads in shame.

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Yet another "Shunning is good for you, honest!" quote in the June 15th 2013 Watchtower

by cedars in

hi folks.

that's right, the new june 15th 2013 study edition is out now on this link.... http://download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/28/w_e_20130615.pdf.

the following quote caught my eye, from the final study article on page 28.... .

Slidin Fast

F***ing Bastards

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Live To 150?

by metatron in

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http://www.businessinsider.com/drug-based-on-red-wine-could-help-people-live-to-150-2013-3.

i'm skeptical because i think defective proteins limit longevity but i think the above could greatly improve aging prospects.. .

metatron.

Slidin Fast

I am going to extract the meaty goodness from this thread. I will increase my consumption of red wine and report to you how well it worked. You can expect my fully referenced paper shortly after it has stopped working.

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With out Fear

by Brother of the Hawk in

Slidin Fast

Err Umm

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THIS NEEDS ITS OWN THREAD:: TODAY's WT Paragraph 16

by Lied2NoMore in

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here is what got my spidey senses tingling: paragraph 16, reference to daniel p mannix book, was wondering if his statement was mis-quoted so i did my research.......but was even more shocked when i saw this: .

from amazon dot com reviews................ probably the most provocative work of historical fiction published this century,"those who are about to die" is pure mannix at his best.

a uncensured exploration of what likely took place in the circuses of ancient rome.

Slidin Fast

Just a point. The quote you are using is a reader review and cannot be used as any thing more than that. The book may have been written as factual. Don't fall into the same trap of using dubious quotes.

If you check out Mannix as an historian however, he certainly should not be quoted with any weight or as an authority. He seeems to have had a very colourful career, just tyhe credentials for a WT quote.